so as far as barack obama, by the way, barack obama scored mid left in both polls. >> interesting. i mean maybe not for people today because he obviously is very popular certainly with democrats, but for historians to choose a living president. >> they chose him as number ten of the 20. they put him at the bottom of the list just below ronald reagan. but it is interesting. the popular people put him in the middle of achievements. it was one of the top ten in the country, so they excluded george w. bush. to my regret they excluded george herbert walker bush who i personally thing they deserved more credit than they got. the popular vote excluded woodrow wilson. woodrow wilson charted american history for the next years. >> what do you make of the breakdown if you look at the list that's used democratic. out of ten, only three are republicans. >> yeah. i mean the people, four were republicans, but wi biand large you have to look at who the republicans are. you've about got warren harding who was always drunk and making love in a closet. corrupt. you've got herbert hoover, decent made